Power Of Nightmares 2of6
July 18th, 2010 | 
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Should we be worried about the threat from organised terrorism or is it simply a phantom menace being used to stop society from falling apart? In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares. The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares. In a new series, the Power of Nightmares explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion. It is a myth that has spread unquestioned through politics, the security services and the international media. At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neo-conservatives and the radical Islamists. Both were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. These two groups have changed the world but not in the way either intended. Those with the darkest fears became the most powerful Together they created today’s nightmare vision of an organised terror network. A fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and authority in a disillusioned age. Those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. The rise of the politics of fear begins in 1949 with two men whose radical ideas would inspire the attack of 9/11 and influence the neo-conservative movement that dominates Washington. Both these men believed that modern liberal freedoms were eroding the bonds that held …
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Christians, Jews and Muslims. The three most evil ideologies known to man. They make the nazis look like amatures.
@Icix1 We do not bomb civilians intentionally, and most, not all, but most Afghanis know that: they aren’t as primitive as you make them out to be.
But again, you need only talk to refuges from around the world who flood to the West for better lives: you cannot smear this fact, no matter how dysfunctional your logic is. You insult the victims of jihadist violence with such flawed morality.
@MattyJames25
In fact that’s one of the greatest things wrong with America…we kill people without even thinking about it and then a president gets a blowjob and everyone has a freak out. We go over to other countries and kill people for trying to unionize. We torture them, take their land, exploit their resources. Then we come back home and talk about how awesome we are. Out of sight, out of mind.
@MattyJames25
You give Americans such a bad name…clearly just seeing the conflict from a Amerocentric viewpoint…there’s so much blood on our hands but it’s so easy to demonize the enemy. Those damn jihadists! Just evil child molestors! It couldn’t be that we continually fuck with the middle east for the last 50 years. Then when arabs get mad and start killing Americans everyone cannot understand what the fuck is going on. You clearly only get your information from super mainstream sources.
@MattyJames25
Lol okay stop being such a tool, he did get a blowjob he just denied the entire thing. And just because you don’t see the bad things we do doesn’t mean they don’t happen. We’re just very good at hiding our terrible deeds to our own people. Also, we’re just as responsible for death in Afghanistan as the jihadists. Why are you so stubborn to conclude that the USA can do no wrong? We bomb their houses, we kill them in their sleep…they would totally agree with me
@MattyJames25
Lol god damnit you’re so ignorant, how can you generalize on an entire fucking group of people, all with their own aspirations and goals without any knowledge on the subject? Talk about neo-con logic, that’s what that is right there. You might as well say that every priest is a child molestor, it’s that same terrible logic. Individual =/= group jackass. There are just as many pedophiles here as there are in Afghanistan….
@Icix1 “I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan” – this just shows how naive you really are. As President, Clinton “the world’s powerful man,” supposedly, couldn’t even get a blowjob!
Do not insult the victims of jihadist violence who are raped and murdered in front of family members for not joining the “cause” by comparing the inhumane atrocities of Islamists to Tom Delay & his cronies.
NO victim in Afghanistan would agree with you.
@Icix1 Fail to do them? You obviously do not read the news. Furthermore, Jihadists are by nature pedophiles- Muhammad’s “favorite wife” Ayisa was only 9 when he “consummated” the marriage after being bewitched of her when she was 6 (he decently “waited”). That is why marriage at 9 is permitted in countries that follow Islam properly. And you are obviously in agreement with the neo-cons you despise in terms of capital punishment – I personally oppose the death penalty.
@MattyJames25
I think it’s all about media exposure. Every time a large corruption case gets brought up its paraded around by the government as a show of force to try and convince people that we have these problems under control. But really for every one we catch there are so many that go free that it doesn’t really matter. Same rules apply elsewhere. But in other countries it’s not as big of a deal. They get taken out back and get their brains blown out, and thats that.
@MattyJames25
Right, but if we have the options to do all those things and fail to do them, how is that any better? And it’s not like the jihadists don’t have rules. They inflict punishment on child molesters and murderers, but just in a different way. in fact I would rather have pedos killed than rotting in prison. I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan, it’s just we make a big show of catching our bad guys and Afghanis just kill him.
@Icix1 Not at all… We control them in a way that is impossible for the Jihadists to control their violence (don’t forget, we disapprove of our shortcomings, the Jihadists have no moral dilemma about killing and raping innocent people: it is state sanctioned in fact). The have no rule of law, we do. They have no regard for the life of those who disagree with them: Republicans do not kill Democrats for disagreeing on issues. Our politicians can be impeached and corrupt bankers imprisoned.
@MattyJames25
I would have agreed if you had said they’re more subtle, they certainly are. They’re sneaky as fuck. But we control them no more than anyone else in the world does. Our corruption is terrible, and yet we like to trick ourselves into thinking its not. Out of sight, out of mind right?
@MattyJames25
Easily the stupidest thing I’ve heard in a while. Our corporations easily avoid the law at every turn. We have no control over the schemers in our society, just look at the present bailout situation. Billions of taxpayer dollars literally given to corrupt and self serving assholes. And if we make a law against it, they just go overseas. Our schemers kill bottling plant workers if they want higher wages. At least the jihadists are honest in their intentions lol.
@Icix1 If you can’t respond to what I have actually said, do not resort to putting words into my mouth. I never once said “America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do.”
You preach moral equivalence- I simply and clearly said: the “schemers (thus admitting that there were in fact *gasp* bad Americans) are better restrained in the West” – there exists no such internal regulation in jihadist circles. Therein lies the difference, although apparently beyond your comprehension
@MattyJames25
And that, my brain dead inept friend, is what this documentary is all about.
@MattyJames25
It’s idiots like you that believe America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do. I’ve seen minorities get their face split open by French police and Indonesian MPs shooting at drunks. You know nothing about how the world truly works and clearly you’ve never been out of the country. America is a great place, but we are NO BETTER than any other place. We do the same shady fucked up shit that everyone else does. Stop being such a tool.
@MattyJames25
Lol don’t be such a twat I never said “America sucks” or “Dont come here!”
I was merely saying that its arrogant to believe we’re that much better than any one country or any one people. We do the same fucked up shit all around the world as humans being. Whether they be large governments or crazy jihadists the self righteous live on and the innocents suffer. Travel? I’ve been to 30+ countries around the world and I’ve seen innocent people beaten everywhere I go.
@Icix1 Look, you obviously have yourself convinced. So your job now is to convince those who don’t agree: the victims of jihadism & injustice who flood the shores of N. America & W. Europe daily.
Please, without delay, go down to the immigration offices and warn them all that they are making a fatal mistake in coming to our Western capitalist countries….
Quick, before it is too late!!!!!!!
You sound like a sad nihilist- it would do you good to actually travel and gain some perspective.
@MattyJames25
See it’s your complete lack of knowledge of the shadiness of our government that is your greatest mistake. We don’t just waterboard a few people, we beat the shit out of them, hang them by their wrists for days on end, refuse to give them food, deprive them of sleep, then repeatedly beat them to death. Hell I would rather have a public decapitation, at least it’s honest and forthcoming.
so, let me get this right.
the neo conservatives thought that too much personal freedom was leading to the erosion of morals, so they lied and sponsored murder around the world in order to make us better people and hold our society together.
it’s not working!
god save us all from our leaders!! dayum!
@SuperMrTiger Don’t ask me, ask anyone who can read the Koran: see Sura 9:29
Hitler thought Jesus was the son of a Jewish whore, and Sharon is not using Judist doctrine for his actions. Muslim terrorists quote and implement Islamic teachings that have been used to justify warfare ever since its founder Muhammad (a warrior and a pedophile – look it up) beheaded Jews and instructed Islam to conqueror everywhere it could. Compare that to Jews saying, “turn the other cheek” and never once killing
@MattyJames25 And you believe that those ugly terrorists are representing Islam !!!
Please, let me ask you some questions !!!
Did Hitler & NAZIS represent Christianity ?!!
Did Sharon & Israeli’s CRIMES represent Judaism ?!!
So, Did Bin laden & his followers represent Islam ?!!!!!
@Icix1 I clearly said “pornographic and public torture,” not that we don’t torture or have pornographic material – but of course this is perhaps too complicated for you. Furthermore you are morally warped to compare waterboarding of a select few prisoners arrested under suspected terrorist activities (which I don’t agree with) to videotaped decapitations of adulterers – there is NO comparison, and again, just ask those running from the jihadists to our societies.
@MattyJames25
We’re not any better, that’s why you’re an idiot. We’re just more arrogant. We kill innocents, torture the young, bomb the world and come home to a land espousing “freedom”. We’re just as bad as the terrorists you hate, but we’ve brainwashed ourselves into thinking we’re somehow the good guys. Oh and I’m sure by “low wage” you meant “veritable slavery”. Our companies rape and pillage the world worse than any terrorists has ever done and yet we’re so self righteous…makes me sick
@MattyJames25
Oh, and we don’t torture or have pornographic material? We’re not intolerant? Don’t pretend like we’re so much better, we kill just as many people as those terrorists you loathe. We’re just as bad, but we’re far, far more arrogant. We think because we live under the guise of “freedom” that we’re somehow vindicated to waterboard our citizens or drop a JDAM on a house. We kill innocents on a daily basis. We just won’t let ourselves admit it. At least the jihadists are honest….
There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)